Hi, could you pls help us add these new control categories ?
• FFLB Davit
• FFLB Boat
• FFLB Hook
• TELB Davit
• TELB Boat
• TELB Hook
• FRB Davit
• FRB Boat
• FRB Hook
• MOB Davit
• MOB Boat
• MOB Hook
• LR Davit
• LR Hook
• Accommodation Ladder
• Gangway
• Pilot Ladder
• Embarkation Ladder
Hi @iva.pogacnik, your suggestion will be followed up by our team 
Meanwhile, would you mind sharing more legal reference, or requirements of your work that lead to the need for these control categories?
Hello Phuong
We do LSA Inspection onboard vessel according to SOLAS and the LSA code. The suggested categories are the different types of equipment we encounter. The inspections are specified in MSC 402 (96) & 404 (96).
I hope to have informed you properly. If you wish to have further information don’t hesitate to get back to us.
Have a lovely day
We try to keep the control categories in Onix Work general. If we shall create control categories for every variant of an equipment type, we will end up with a very long list.
When we look at your list we think the existing control categories will cover your need.
A1 - Launching appliances for free fall lifeboats
A2 - Lifeboats launched by falls and a winch
A3 - Launching appliances for escape chutes
A4 - Launching appliances for rafts
A5 - Escape lines
A6 - Launching appliances for rescue boats
A7 - Personnel transfer carriers
LSP - Portable ladders and stairs
If you need to split more, we recommend you use Type for the relevant equipment or create a product for each of the equipment type you want and link to the equipment.
Hi Randi, we simply need the new requested categories to be set up as we unfortunately can´t use the default set up that you´re suggesting
Can you explain a little more why you need the new control categories and cannot use the more general ones.
Is it to search for information, default checklists or another reason.
Please explain a little more about why you need these detailed control categories so we can understand this better.
We have discussed this internally and decided not move forward with this product idea. We have not got other any other customers giving us feedback about the need of these new control categories and we think using the existing control categories in addition to Type will be OK.
@iva.pogacnik I highly recommend you to share some more details about the motivation regardring the request for more control categories. My collegue Randi has previously requested more explanaition about the matter.
Kind regards, Thomas Ljengkvist
Good morning
As we see it control categories are vital labels that comes in on the highest sorting level as well as determine which checklist to use. If we inspect a chain hoist we would use G10 and if we are to inspect a freefall lifeboat then we would like to have a control category for that.
I can’t understand your reluctancy to accommodate our request. What is the logic behind it?
Someone got all other added so why can’t we get our categories added?
What about R8? That has no bearing on LSA equipment but that got approved. And what Randi replied that you haven’t received same request from other companies and therefore decided not to add them is a bad argument. It’s like we would ask you to remove R8 from the system because we don’t use it.
All the best and hope we can reach a conclusion of this matter this week.
Anders Scanunit
Hello
I see your need for a more detailed level than the existing control categories we have can give you when you want to link the checklists to control categories. Onix Work is a general system used for a lot of users and different types of equipment and we must try to keep the control categories detailed but not too detailed to make sure we do not end up with thousands of control categories.
We still suggest you to use the existing control categories we have suggested earlier, but we recommend you to create Products in Onix Work with product name, FFLB Davit, FFLB Boat, FFLB Hook, TELB Davit, …….
Instead of link the checklist to control category you can link them to products and when you create a job for e.g. FFLB Davit the linked checklist will be available in the same way as if it was linked to the control category.
In Settings/Checklist, select the actual checklist and remove the linked Control category.
Create the actual products you need and link the checklist to the actual products instead.
In equipment you must make sure that the equipment is related to correct product.
You can link existing equipment to correct product, include product as a column in equipment view you use and when creating new equipment you select the actual product with the default values you have defined
If you need training in how to create products and link the checklists to product please contact your customer success manager or send a request to support@onix.com
Hi Randy, I see. Then for the LSA we will just use XX since the existing ones will only add confusion since they are not accuratly descriptive.
So maybe we have been thinking about this the incorrect way. We have been setting everything up for all items we inspect under equipment. Should we use Product instead? What is the pros and cons of using products instead of equipment for all items we are inspecting?
Hello
It is correct to set up the inspections related to equipment’s.
Product is only templates used to simplify when creating equipment’s.
Logged in companies can create their own products, insert relevant equipment details, equipment properties and document to be added automatically when a new equipment is created. In addition logged in company creating the product can define rules on the product which will be relevant for equipment’s linked to the product (e.g. type field is mandatory.)
In addition you can define default checklists related to product. When you create a new job for an equipment linked to the product the default checklist will then automatically be selected for the job.
Control category is used as a general grouping of the equipment’s common for all member companies. Product is a template when creating new and can in addition be used as a more specific grouping of the equipment and we can also add rules and some default values to the products.
If you need more info related to control categories and products please contact your customer success manager or send a request to support@onix.com
